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Pasqual Allen's avatar

So good. Very good ladies.

Edward Gregory Jones's avatar

Where are the “show notes”? How do I find the treasure trove? Map?

Danielle Pletka's avatar

Thank you for the kind comments. You can find my work here whatthehellisgoingon.substack.com or here https://www.aei.org/profile/danielle-pletka/

Edward Gregory Jones's avatar

Thanks for that. I subscribed. I appreciate your perspective, personal experience, and quick humor, a real ME “hand”

Edward Gregory Jones's avatar

Are they available only for the live sessions and then they go away? I can’t find them at the end of the recorded sessions. Where can I find Dany solo? I love you guys, you’re so freakin smart, and funny too. I came to 𝕏 for ideas and conversations. I find them on Substack super bigly

Elise Labott's avatar

Show notes at the bottom!. Map in Dany’s blockade piece and Dany - hand over your treasure trove of Lebanon pieces!

Edward Gregory Jones's avatar

I meant the “treasure trove” of show notes, and the “treasure” map to where they’re buried

Herman Jacobs's avatar

First, the Pope did not say , “God does not answer the prayers of *military people*.” Your guest resorted to that misquote in service of false spin. In his Palm Sunday address, the Pope actually said, “God does not listen to the prayers of *those who wage war*.” And his specific words, “those who wage war,” clearly refer to those who start wars.

The soldiers who fight in wars are not the ones who start them.  State leaders “wage war.” Soldiers only fight in them.

For your guest  to use a fake quote to spin up a false suggestion that the Pope asserted that God rejects the personal prayers of every military person, every common soldier, was a malicious insult.

The thrust of the Pope’s Palm Sunday address was directed at those who try to use religion to justify war, as Trump, Vance, and Hegseth have done. It is *always* wrong, and dangerous, to use religion to justify war or to use religion to support war.  Simply put, the Pope’s message was, God does not listen to prayers for war.

I encourage your guest to read the Pope’s full Palm Sunday remarks, rather than using one misquoted sentence to make it sound as if the Pope said God rejects the personal prayers of every member of the military.  Please see: https://www.catholicherald.com/article/global/pope-leo-xiv/pope-leo-xiv-says-god-does-not-listen-to-prayers-of-those-who-wage-war/

Second, your guest’s assertion  that the Pope should stay out of politics is nonsense.

If the Pope must not criticize those who wage war because war is a political issue, then he must also remain silent about hunger, poverty, marriage, and abortion, because those are also issues addressed in politics. The Pope must not speak of clothing the poor or giving food to the hungry. Heaven forbid he should ever speak on abortion and divorce!

Aristotle called Politics the Queen of the Sciences, because politics decides in all things what will be allowed and disallowed. For example, we have the 1st Amendment that allows us free speech, but it was a political act that created the amendment allowing free speech. Because politics is pervasive, the Pope could not speak about much of anything without “getting into politics.”

What your guest objects to is not that the Pope spoke about a political issue, but that he spoke about a political issue—Trump’s war against Iran—about which she and the Pope disagree.

Just as politics is the Queen of the Sciences, theology rules in its own realm. The two realms, rather paradoxically, are naturally separate realms, but also fully overlap in the sense that politics decides what is allowed in religion, and in the sense that Theology also addresses what is pious in every aspect of human life. Politics and theology work in the same space upon the same materials, yet do so aiming at entirely different final ends.

Because the two realms overlap, but aim at different ends, they will always be more or less in tension with each other. That tension can be constructive—each can moderate the other. Or it can be horribly destructive—if either one tries to rule the other. The need to find ways to live well with that tension will never end and is a permanent problem for both politics and theology. With regard to that tension and apart from the teachings of politics and theology, history abundantly confirms the truth in the Pope’s warning that state leaders should NEVER use religion to justify war. There are no holy wars.

There were quite a few other points on which I disagreed with your guest, but it was her deceptive misquote and misuse of the Pope’s words that really set me off. I do sincerely apologize for making uncivil personal remarks in the chat about her defense of Trump’s “policies,” even though the man has no policies, but has only whims, vengefulness, grievances, unrestrained id, and cruelties.